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	<title>Comments on: I don&#8217;t know any programming language</title>
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	<description>My opinion on Teaching, Programming, Technology and Web 2.0 in Mauritius</description>
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		<title>By: Eddy Young</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/06/13/i-dont-know-any-programming-language/#comment-139124</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddy Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@selven: 4lyf is pulling your leg. Ignore him.

Eddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@selven: 4lyf is pulling your leg. Ignore him.</p>
<p>Eddy.</p>
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		<title>By: selven</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/06/13/i-dont-know-any-programming-language/#comment-139060</link>
		<dc:creator>selven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seriously.. even now.. who would wanna be a geek? 
Probably someone who doesn&#039;t know the meaning of being a geek,

As far as being a wanker :p well, who hasn&#039;t been one?
That&#039;s being hypocrite to yourself to think that to call someone a wanker is an insult :p.. else otherwise you&#039;ve never been a wanker and has been a nerdy lil creature who was afraid of becoming blind :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously.. even now.. who would wanna be a geek?<br />
Probably someone who doesn&#8217;t know the meaning of being a geek,</p>
<p>As far as being a wanker :p well, who hasn&#8217;t been one?<br />
That&#8217;s being hypocrite to yourself to think that to call someone a wanker is an insult :p.. else otherwise you&#8217;ve never been a wanker and has been a nerdy lil creature who was afraid of becoming blind :p</p>
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		<title>By: avinash</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/06/13/i-dont-know-any-programming-language/#comment-138790</link>
		<dc:creator>avinash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extremely bright (and rich) wankers nevertheless :-)

More seriously, fifteen years ago, no one wanted to be a geek. I fondly remember my university cohort in France which contained 20 geeks and 100 &quot;tourists&quot; (i.e. students having been channeled to CS because they were not good enough to get what they really wanted to do.)

Fifteen years later, hundred of students with no inclinations or aptitudes towards CS and especially programming (like you in fact) are dying to do Computer Science in order to get a job in the Cybercity. They don&#039;t realize that they&#039;ll have a boring and pathetic life...

So stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extremely bright (and rich) wankers nevertheless <img src='http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>More seriously, fifteen years ago, no one wanted to be a geek. I fondly remember my university cohort in France which contained 20 geeks and 100 &#8220;tourists&#8221; (i.e. students having been channeled to CS because they were not good enough to get what they really wanted to do.)</p>
<p>Fifteen years later, hundred of students with no inclinations or aptitudes towards CS and especially programming (like you in fact) are dying to do Computer Science in order to get a job in the Cybercity. They don&#8217;t realize that they&#8217;ll have a boring and pathetic life&#8230;</p>
<p>So stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: avinash</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/06/13/i-dont-know-any-programming-language/#comment-137849</link>
		<dc:creator>avinash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second that. Don&#039;t forget this open source mantra: release early, release often.

I&#039;ve been using &lt;a href=&quot;http://git.or.cz/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;git&lt;/a&gt; for a few days now and the whole concept of distributed versioning appeals a lot to me. Anyone can fork any project (including the Linux kernel) and get a lot of satisfaction by refactoring or enhancing existing code whether written by you or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second that. Don&#8217;t forget this open source mantra: release early, release often.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using <a href="http://git.or.cz/" rel="nofollow">git</a> for a few days now and the whole concept of distributed versioning appeals a lot to me. Anyone can fork any project (including the Linux kernel) and get a lot of satisfaction by refactoring or enhancing existing code whether written by you or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy Young</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/06/13/i-dont-know-any-programming-language/#comment-137808</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddy Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  Don&#039;t you people just has this major turn off once you&#039;ve already figured out a solution to a problem?? its like pffft, i want someone to type it for me, its boring to type it now?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, it happens to me all the time. But, the nature of the job requires that I type the code, at least until such time that voice-recognition software become good enough to handle dictation of code.

Selven, it sounds like you&#039;re about to burn-out. Other than trying to diversify your interests, practise agile coding: write &lt;em&gt;draft&lt;/em&gt; code, then refactor, instead of trying to get it right the first time.

As an aside, I&#039;m having more fun refactoring the code for an application that I wrote last year than writing new code. Just finding my own faults and realising how much more I have learnt in that one year is so satisfying.

Eddy.</description>
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  Don&#8217;t you people just has this major turn off once you&#8217;ve already figured out a solution to a problem?? its like pffft, i want someone to type it for me, its boring to type it now?
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<p>Yes, it happens to me all the time. But, the nature of the job requires that I type the code, at least until such time that voice-recognition software become good enough to handle dictation of code.</p>
<p>Selven, it sounds like you&#8217;re about to burn-out. Other than trying to diversify your interests, practise agile coding: write <em>draft</em> code, then refactor, instead of trying to get it right the first time.</p>
<p>As an aside, I&#8217;m having more fun refactoring the code for an application that I wrote last year than writing new code. Just finding my own faults and realising how much more I have learnt in that one year is so satisfying.</p>
<p>Eddy.</p>
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		<title>By: avinash</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/06/13/i-dont-know-any-programming-language/#comment-137776</link>
		<dc:creator>avinash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 04:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the point Selven. No one (except MAYBE the language designers themselves) know everything that exist in a programming language.

This does not prevent people from creating fantastic software everywhere.

This implies that creating software does not require mastery of a programming language but rather knowledge of some fundamentals and the willingness to learn.

An interesting question would be whether your 3 years at the University of Mauritius has taught you those fundamentals and increased your appetite for knowledge...

(As for the pic, I chose it because, for me, programming is a human activity. It occurs when one human being describes a process as precisely as possible in a way that another human being can readily comprehend. As such, programming is only tangentially related to computers.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the point Selven. No one (except MAYBE the language designers themselves) know everything that exist in a programming language.</p>
<p>This does not prevent people from creating fantastic software everywhere.</p>
<p>This implies that creating software does not require mastery of a programming language but rather knowledge of some fundamentals and the willingness to learn.</p>
<p>An interesting question would be whether your 3 years at the University of Mauritius has taught you those fundamentals and increased your appetite for knowledge&#8230;</p>
<p>(As for the pic, I chose it because, for me, programming is a human activity. It occurs when one human being describes a process as precisely as possible in a way that another human being can readily comprehend. As such, programming is only tangentially related to computers.)</p>
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		<title>By: selven</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/06/13/i-dont-know-any-programming-language/#comment-137727</link>
		<dc:creator>selven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps. as for the pic attached for that post, that&#039;s not even related to anything programming, reminds me of some porn with ear fetishism.
:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps. as for the pic attached for that post, that&#8217;s not even related to anything programming, reminds me of some porn with ear fetishism.<br />
 <img src='http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: selven</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/06/13/i-dont-know-any-programming-language/#comment-137726</link>
		<dc:creator>selven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t understand the reason of having to know EVERYTHING in a programming language, as long as you know the abilities of that programming language, hence whenever you think of a solution that using that &quot;ability of that language&quot; will help in a faster/nicer/ implementation, then at that time the trivial part is to just refer to the the doc.

Besides .. that&#039;ll be foolish to learn everything in a language [according to me], people are not meant to be hard disks, but rather processors.


as for me, if that was the case as above, then i hell don&#039;t know any programming language, but then when i get a problem, i will find a language the fits my solution easily, and uses lesser lines of codes and is much more friendlier to read... [not some brainfck stuffs]

as always, its just... my not so humble opinion :D  i could careless :p

[don&#039;t you people just has this major turn off once you&#039;ve already figured out a solution to a problem?? its like pffft, i want someone to type it for me, its boring to type it now?]

+$3&#124;v3n</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t understand the reason of having to know EVERYTHING in a programming language, as long as you know the abilities of that programming language, hence whenever you think of a solution that using that &#8220;ability of that language&#8221; will help in a faster/nicer/ implementation, then at that time the trivial part is to just refer to the the doc.</p>
<p>Besides .. that&#8217;ll be foolish to learn everything in a language [according to me], people are not meant to be hard disks, but rather processors.</p>
<p>as for me, if that was the case as above, then i hell don&#8217;t know any programming language, but then when i get a problem, i will find a language the fits my solution easily, and uses lesser lines of codes and is much more friendlier to read&#8230; [not some brainfck stuffs]</p>
<p>as always, its just&#8230; my not so humble opinion <img src='http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   i could careless :p</p>
<p>[don't you people just has this major turn off once you've already figured out a solution to a problem?? its like pffft, i want someone to type it for me, its boring to type it now?]</p>
<p>+$3|v3n</p>
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		<title>By: avinash</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/06/13/i-dont-know-any-programming-language/#comment-137692</link>
		<dc:creator>avinash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, what he said is obvious.

But many people tend to forget that mastery is elusive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, what he said is obvious.</p>
<p>But many people tend to forget that mastery is elusive.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy Young</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/06/13/i-dont-know-any-programming-language/#comment-137553</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddy Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@avinash: I did understand the original post, but it annoys me that the author tries to make a big statement with the blatantly obvious. That you find it &lt;em&gt;inspiring&lt;/em&gt; annoys me even more. But then, this is your blog :-)

Eddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@avinash: I did understand the original post, but it annoys me that the author tries to make a big statement with the blatantly obvious. That you find it <em>inspiring</em> annoys me even more. But then, this is your blog <img src='http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Eddy.</p>
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