Comments on: Answers for my Scheme and Prolog test http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/04/07/answers-for-my-scheme-and-prolog-test/ My opinion on Teaching, Programming, Technology and Web 2.0 in Mauritius Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:32:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: reehas http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/04/07/answers-for-my-scheme-and-prolog-test/#comment-130915 reehas Fri, 09 May 2008 08:35:42 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/?p=432#comment-130915 If u deserve to fail.. you will fail.... We cannot compromise with quality. [Kavi Khedo] If u deserve to fail.. you will fail…. We cannot compromise with quality.
[Kavi Khedo]

]]> By: ICT http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/04/07/answers-for-my-scheme-and-prolog-test/#comment-130422 ICT Tue, 06 May 2008 16:47:28 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/?p=432#comment-130422 HI Sir, its really sad to knw zat UOM will lose a lecturer like u..but am sure u'll b back some d...hopefuly....loll... just wanted to let u knw zat ict/ecs students r really new to this subject...as u may have seen in class, we r really out of subject..and our marks provides the best evidence...they speak of themselves....so SIR could u plz consider our case and b lenient on our corretion......thx n plz stay as u r.......always cheerful and full of life....was glad to knw u..........plx pity us........................ HI Sir,
its really sad to knw zat UOM will lose a lecturer like u..but am sure u’ll b back some d…hopefuly….loll…
just wanted to let u knw zat ict/ecs students r really new to this subject…as u may have seen in class, we r really out of subject..and our marks provides the best evidence…they speak of themselves….so SIR could u plz consider our case and b lenient on our corretion……thx n plz stay as u r…….always cheerful and full of life….was glad to knw u……….plx pity us……………………

]]> By: jt http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/04/07/answers-for-my-scheme-and-prolog-test/#comment-130356 jt Tue, 06 May 2008 11:04:46 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/?p=432#comment-130356 Yep indead best lecturer i ve worked with during my 4 years at uom.. System software, Parallel programming and PL now..Uom badly need lecturers like you.. Friendly and lively in classe such that we want to come to your lectures and not bunk them..LOL :D Yep indead best lecturer i ve worked with during my 4 years at uom.. System software, Parallel programming and PL now..Uom badly need lecturers like you.. Friendly and lively in classe such that we want to come to your lectures and not bunk them..LOL :D

]]> By: avinash http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/04/07/answers-for-my-scheme-and-prolog-test/#comment-128868 avinash Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:00:54 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/?p=432#comment-128868 Hi, Thanks for the compliment :-) It's nice to know that you have liked what you have learned with me. As a matter of fact, I enjoyed teaching that module a lot. It was the first time I taught Scheme and Ruby (and, of course, Prolog) and I really had a lot of fun preparing the lectures and labsheets. In fact, I learned a lot myself... Hi,

Thanks for the compliment :-)

It’s nice to know that you have liked what you have learned with me. As a matter of fact, I enjoyed teaching that module a lot. It was the first time I taught Scheme and Ruby (and, of course, Prolog) and I really had a lot of fun preparing the lectures and labsheets. In fact, I learned a lot myself…

]]> By: ict/ecs http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/04/07/answers-for-my-scheme-and-prolog-test/#comment-128798 ict/ecs Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:24:04 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/?p=432#comment-128798 The test was indeed away from being a conventional one but very challenging... unfortunately the ict/ecs batch didn't work quite well... we are sorry to disappoint you sir... we'll try our very best for the exams... thank you for giving "UOM teaching style" a new direction... you are one of the best lecturers around the planet ;-) we had a great time working with you sir... thank you... god bless... good luck for life ahead... The test was indeed away from being a conventional one but very challenging… unfortunately the ict/ecs batch didn’t work quite well… we are sorry to disappoint you sir…
we’ll try our very best for the exams…
thank you for giving “UOM teaching style” a new direction… you are one of the best lecturers around the planet ;-)
we had a great time working with you sir… thank you… god bless… good luck for life ahead…

]]> By: avinash http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/04/07/answers-for-my-scheme-and-prolog-test/#comment-127449 avinash Sat, 19 Apr 2008 04:26:09 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/?p=432#comment-127449 Unfortunately, life is not that simple :-) If you want to know what Steve Yegge said, you'll have to read the thing by yourself. Don't forget what I said during my lecture. I am a guide. I only show you where knowledge is. Assimilating it is your job. Unfortunately, life is not that simple :-)

If you want to know what Steve Yegge said, you’ll have to read the thing by yourself.

Don’t forget what I said during my lecture. I am a guide. I only show you where knowledge is. Assimilating it is your job.

]]> By: reehas http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/04/07/answers-for-my-scheme-and-prolog-test/#comment-127411 reehas Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:45:08 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/?p=432#comment-127411 Sir, i took courage to go from here to the site of steve, but almost instantly was discouraged... lol toooooo much thing to read sir. I'm sure if i start to read, and when i finally arive at the end, i will forget what was said at the beginnig.. lol li ti pu pli korek, si nek ou met ban main points la laem, in your own words, ti pu pli simple pu compran sir... Sir, i took courage to go from here to the site of steve, but almost instantly was discouraged… lol

toooooo much thing to read sir. I’m sure if i start to read, and when i finally arive at the end, i will forget what was said at the beginnig.. lol

li ti pu pli korek, si nek ou met ban main points la laem, in your own words, ti pu pli simple pu compran sir…

]]> By: avinash http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/04/07/answers-for-my-scheme-and-prolog-test/#comment-126968 avinash Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:39:35 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/?p=432#comment-126968 Selven, As a lecturer, I decide what to teach and what to examine. This is called academic freedom :-) As for Compilation, read <a href="http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2007/06/rich-programmer-food.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> from my hero, Steve Yegge. Selven,

As a lecturer, I decide what to teach and what to examine. This is called academic freedom :-)

As for Compilation, read this from my hero, Steve Yegge.

]]> By: selven http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/04/07/answers-for-my-scheme-and-prolog-test/#comment-126958 selven Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:31:12 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/?p=432#comment-126958 since when have you started posting answers to your tests after a test?? "Therefore, I decided to do Programming Methodology II and I believe that some students who disliked programming now find it comprehensible at least." but still that is supposed to be PL... wouldn't that mean causing a lost of what was supposed to be learnt in a classical PL module? [that also for the sake of people who didn't understand programming methodology? [i'd rather suggest 'un cour de rattrappage', rather than hyjack the module's content... hmm maybe i might be wrong] (that said, i still find the new pl more fun.. but still ... "(2) (real) Programming Language modules introduce students to the syntax and semantics of programming languages for one reason: to make them build their own compilers and interpreters. Unfortunately, even if there is a Compilation elective in Year III, it has been taught only once (as far as I know) and only by a visiting professor. It’s a waste of time learning about syntax and semantics if you don’t have the chance to apply the knowledge somewhere." but still.. some might argue that they are not getting what they signed up for... <i>"It’s a waste of time learning about syntax and semantics if you don’t have the chance to apply the knowledge somewhere."</i> and... isn't that supposed to make academics academics? <i>Ideally, the Programming Language part should be combined with the Compilation part into a mega super Syntax and Semantics of Programming Languages yearly module.</i> computer science students who don't even have micro processors in their syllabus, now you want to insert compilation? :p it will be considerred as illegal, because "there won't be many who will come out with degrees" and that... mr our prime minister won't be happy about. $3|v3n since when have you started posting answers to your tests after a test??

“Therefore, I decided to do Programming Methodology II and I believe that some students who disliked programming now find it comprehensible at least.”

but still that is supposed to be PL… wouldn’t that mean causing a lost of what was supposed to be learnt in a classical PL module? [that also for the sake of people who didn't understand programming methodology? [i'd rather suggest 'un cour de rattrappage', rather than hyjack the module's content... hmm maybe i might be wrong] (that said, i still find the new pl more fun.. but still …

“(2) (real) Programming Language modules introduce students to the syntax and semantics of programming languages for one reason: to make them build their own compilers and interpreters. Unfortunately, even if there is a Compilation elective in Year III, it has been taught only once (as far as I know) and only by a visiting professor. It’s a waste of time learning about syntax and semantics if you don’t have the chance to apply the knowledge somewhere.”

but still.. some might argue that they are not getting what they signed up for…

“It’s a waste of time learning about syntax and semantics if you don’t have the chance to apply the knowledge somewhere.”
and… isn’t that supposed to make academics academics?

Ideally, the Programming Language part should be combined with the Compilation part into a mega super Syntax and Semantics of Programming Languages yearly module.

computer science students who don’t even have micro processors in their syllabus, now you want to insert compilation? :p it will be considerred as illegal, because “there won’t be many who will come out with degrees” and that… mr our prime minister won’t be happy about.

$3|v3n

]]> By: avinash http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/04/07/answers-for-my-scheme-and-prolog-test/#comment-126113 avinash Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:10:44 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/?p=432#comment-126113 Nice observation. And you are perfectly right. I did not teach Programming Languages. Instead I taught Functional programming (using Scheme), Logic programming (using Prolog) and Modern programming (aka scripting) (using Ruby). There are two reasons why I did that: (1) Many students do not know how to program because they couldn't relate to C++ during the first year (which I fully understand - C++ is a crap programming language to teach programming...). Therefore, I decided to do Programming Methodology II and I believe that some students who disliked programming now find it comprehensible at least. (2) (real) Programming Language modules introduce students to the syntax and semantics of programming languages for one reason: to make them build their own compilers and interpreters. Unfortunately, even if there is a Compilation elective in Year III, it has been taught only once (as far as I know) and only by a visiting professor. It's a waste of time learning about syntax and semantics if you don't have the chance to apply the knowledge somewhere. Ideally, the Programming Language part should be combined with the Compilation part into a mega super Syntax and Semantics of Programming Languages yearly module. This would be a great module to teach but I guess that someone else would have to do it... Nice observation.

And you are perfectly right. I did not teach Programming Languages. Instead I taught Functional programming (using Scheme), Logic programming (using Prolog) and Modern programming (aka scripting) (using Ruby).

There are two reasons why I did that:

(1) Many students do not know how to program because they couldn’t relate to C++ during the first year (which I fully understand – C++ is a crap programming language to teach programming…). Therefore, I decided to do Programming Methodology II and I believe that some students who disliked programming now find it comprehensible at least.

(2) (real) Programming Language modules introduce students to the syntax and semantics of programming languages for one reason: to make them build their own compilers and interpreters. Unfortunately, even if there is a Compilation elective in Year III, it has been taught only once (as far as I know) and only by a visiting professor. It’s a waste of time learning about syntax and semantics if you don’t have the chance to apply the knowledge somewhere.

Ideally, the Programming Language part should be combined with the Compilation part into a mega super Syntax and Semantics of Programming Languages yearly module. This would be a great module to teach but I guess that someone else would have to do it…

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