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		<title>By: Joël</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/02/23/being-patriotic-in-mauritius/#comment-168302</link>
		<dc:creator>Joël</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for your reply! I have been sending them emails now to ask for it, got a reply after the 3rd email from one person and none from the other 3 adres that i´ve sent them to. The reply that I got was: My leader, it was her secretary that wrote back, is now on maternity leave. She will contact you in February. I just feel stupid now that i did not save it while reading it. I was going to use some of the articles for my thesis. Will be home in February, may be parents or friends have it and had kept the newspaper it was with or a library because I think that i don´t have much chance to get it otherwise. Will try to send another email now with the link that that you have given me, because they must have it somewhere and there should not be any problem to  send it. I hope so...
Yes i´ve seen the new web site. Well at first we could only see the articles that they have chosen to add but now they have added the whole paper. It does not work well but at least we can get to read the whole paper than: &quot;un mauricien au concours de m univers en suisse&quot; i was amazed to see that one as may be more important than la fournaise is erupting now, saw that on bbc world.their search engine does not work at all while before it worked really well. But i liked the new video concept i dont know if they r continuing it and the pictures of Agalega!! I think that the new web site is going to get better, i guess they need some time. thank you again fo your reply</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your reply! I have been sending them emails now to ask for it, got a reply after the 3rd email from one person and none from the other 3 adres that i´ve sent them to. The reply that I got was: My leader, it was her secretary that wrote back, is now on maternity leave. She will contact you in February. I just feel stupid now that i did not save it while reading it. I was going to use some of the articles for my thesis. Will be home in February, may be parents or friends have it and had kept the newspaper it was with or a library because I think that i don´t have much chance to get it otherwise. Will try to send another email now with the link that that you have given me, because they must have it somewhere and there should not be any problem to  send it. I hope so&#8230;<br />
Yes i´ve seen the new web site. Well at first we could only see the articles that they have chosen to add but now they have added the whole paper. It does not work well but at least we can get to read the whole paper than: &#8220;un mauricien au concours de m univers en suisse&#8221; i was amazed to see that one as may be more important than la fournaise is erupting now, saw that on bbc world.their search engine does not work at all while before it worked really well. But i liked the new video concept i dont know if they r continuing it and the pictures of Agalega!! I think that the new web site is going to get better, i guess they need some time. thank you again fo your reply</p>
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		<title>By: avinash</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/02/23/being-patriotic-in-mauritius/#comment-168267</link>
		<dc:creator>avinash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, L&#039;Express.mu does not have any of those articles online anymore. Is this an oversight or a deliberate strategy, they only know.

Previously, the articles were at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lexpress.mu/extra/12mars/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.lexpress.mu/extra/12mars/&lt;/a&gt;...

As a matter of fact, there is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/12/01/lexpressmu-is-not-working-well/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an ongoing discussion&lt;/a&gt; on the new version of L&#039;Express.mu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, L&#8217;Express.mu does not have any of those articles online anymore. Is this an oversight or a deliberate strategy, they only know.</p>
<p>Previously, the articles were at <a href="http://www.lexpress.mu/extra/12mars/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lexpress.mu/extra/12mars/</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, there is <a href="http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/12/01/lexpressmu-is-not-working-well/" rel="nofollow">an ongoing discussion</a> on the new version of L&#8217;Express.mu.</p>
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		<title>By: Joël</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/02/23/being-patriotic-in-mauritius/#comment-168204</link>
		<dc:creator>Joël</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I am looking for the articles of L’Express: Special Supplement 40th Independence Anniversary of Mauritius. 
May be one of you have stored his file because with the new express site I can no more access it. I would be happy if someone had a link to it. Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I am looking for the articles of L’Express: Special Supplement 40th Independence Anniversary of Mauritius.<br />
May be one of you have stored his file because with the new express site I can no more access it. I would be happy if someone had a link to it. Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Big Mauritian Questions &#62; 01 &#171; Contextuallogic - Shaan Cheekhooree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Mauritian Questions &#62; 01 &#171; Contextuallogic - Shaan Cheekhooree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Being patriotic in Mauritius [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kooshal finally decides to blog! &#171; Kooshal Bhungy: My Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/02/23/being-patriotic-in-mauritius/#comment-146355</link>
		<dc:creator>Kooshal finally decides to blog! &#171; Kooshal Bhungy: My Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] show today, but I would like to repeat the wonderful words i came across on our famous lecturer Avinash&#8217;s Blog who quoted SRK in one of his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mi</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very cool film</description>
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		<title>By: avinash</title>
		<link>http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2008/02/23/being-patriotic-in-mauritius/#comment-121573</link>
		<dc:creator>avinash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comment, Nashela!

It might even be the longest comment ever submitted on my blog :-)

I&#039;ve just checked a number of definitions on Wikipedia (yes, it&#039;s not authoritative but, for me, it&#039;s good enough).

You wrote &quot;we must work on defining a pristine Mauritian nation&quot;. I remember a radio programme a few days before the 12th where some people were arguing about the definition of the word &quot;nation&quot;. For some people, Mauritius is a nation whereas for some other a &quot;a nation is a form of self-defined cultural and social community&quot; (as seen on Wikipedia). Mauritius being full of so many culturally and socially different people therefore cannot be a nation, only a state...

The Wikipedia article explicitly states that people from the same nation have generally the same descent, language, culture and religion.

On the other hand, &quot;A state is a political association with effective sovereignty over a geographic area (called a country).&quot; 

Food for thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment, Nashela!</p>
<p>It might even be the longest comment ever submitted on my blog <img src='http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just checked a number of definitions on Wikipedia (yes, it&#8217;s not authoritative but, for me, it&#8217;s good enough).</p>
<p>You wrote &#8220;we must work on defining a pristine Mauritian nation&#8221;. I remember a radio programme a few days before the 12th where some people were arguing about the definition of the word &#8220;nation&#8221;. For some people, Mauritius is a nation whereas for some other a &#8220;a nation is a form of self-defined cultural and social community&#8221; (as seen on Wikipedia). Mauritius being full of so many culturally and socially different people therefore cannot be a nation, only a state&#8230;</p>
<p>The Wikipedia article explicitly states that people from the same nation have generally the same descent, language, culture and religion.</p>
<p>On the other hand, &#8220;A state is a political association with effective sovereignty over a geographic area (called a country).&#8221; </p>
<p>Food for thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nashela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nashela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i came across this blog by coincidence. i am an education officer and i am writing on patriotism and  the sense of belonging for a magazine.please let me know what you think.

As one people, as one nation...

Patriotism…a word difficult to define but still gratuitously employed in mundane conversations. Even the Oxford dictionary fails to provide a clear and concise definition. Even more appalling is the fact that when I asked around me to students on what patriotism means, in the midst of all the blank looks and lame excuses of being too busy or too-tired-to-think, all I was able to extract from them were mechanical and flimsy references to ‘loving your country or sacrificing yourself for your country.’ Conclusion, youngsters have no inkling what patriotism is all about.

Maybe they are not to be blamed altogether: Mauritius is too young a nation to foster Bhagat Singhs and Martin Luther Kings.  Singing the national anthem does not make us Mauritians, neither does supporting the Mauritian team (Club M) in inter-island competitions. A stark lack of patriotism latent in youngsters and sceptics is the overt and naïve belief that things would have been better had Mauritius still been under British jurisdiction. Our nation is only forty years old but independence is already an alien concept, vulgarized and too often taken for granted. Such thoughts are detrimental to building up our sense of belonging and to defining Mauritianism.

What do we mean by patriotism in the context of our times? I venture to suggest that Patriotism denotes positive and supportive attitudes to a &#039;motherland’, or to be politically correct, to the ‘parentland’. In this tradition, patriotism is often synonymous with public spiritedness. However, the belief in the superiority of one&#039;s own and a concomitant disdain for others is not a necessary element of the concept of patriotism. Nor does patriotism require that one refrains from criticizing one&#039;s land.  In fact, Patriotism is in many ways treated like an abstract concept more than a way of life.

 	Of course, there is no prescriptive way to patriotism but what is deplorable is the committal sense of belonging sadly lacking in today’s youths. Today we talk about ‘brain drain’, that is the ready acceptance that the grass is greener elsewhere in terms of opportunities and avenues and the alienation of our efficient and professional resources accordingly. What youngsters fail to realize is that the socio-politico-economic situation should in no way influence one’s attitude towards patriotism. More and more youngsters nowadays have a bleak view of the prospects Mauritius holds. They think in terms of what Mauritius has to offer. My question to them is what do they have to offer to the country?

As representatives of the next generation, youngsters have the responsibility to define themselves in terms of their nation. Our history is undeniably complicated because of our double colonisation and our identity problematic because of our diverse origins. Instead of swearing allegiance to alien countries we are only attached to because we share similar cultures, we must work on defining a pristine Mauritian nation. Our pressing responsibility is to create a better Mauritius and the onus is on youngsters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i came across this blog by coincidence. i am an education officer and i am writing on patriotism and  the sense of belonging for a magazine.please let me know what you think.</p>
<p>As one people, as one nation&#8230;</p>
<p>Patriotism…a word difficult to define but still gratuitously employed in mundane conversations. Even the Oxford dictionary fails to provide a clear and concise definition. Even more appalling is the fact that when I asked around me to students on what patriotism means, in the midst of all the blank looks and lame excuses of being too busy or too-tired-to-think, all I was able to extract from them were mechanical and flimsy references to ‘loving your country or sacrificing yourself for your country.’ Conclusion, youngsters have no inkling what patriotism is all about.</p>
<p>Maybe they are not to be blamed altogether: Mauritius is too young a nation to foster Bhagat Singhs and Martin Luther Kings.  Singing the national anthem does not make us Mauritians, neither does supporting the Mauritian team (Club M) in inter-island competitions. A stark lack of patriotism latent in youngsters and sceptics is the overt and naïve belief that things would have been better had Mauritius still been under British jurisdiction. Our nation is only forty years old but independence is already an alien concept, vulgarized and too often taken for granted. Such thoughts are detrimental to building up our sense of belonging and to defining Mauritianism.</p>
<p>What do we mean by patriotism in the context of our times? I venture to suggest that Patriotism denotes positive and supportive attitudes to a &#8216;motherland’, or to be politically correct, to the ‘parentland’. In this tradition, patriotism is often synonymous with public spiritedness. However, the belief in the superiority of one&#8217;s own and a concomitant disdain for others is not a necessary element of the concept of patriotism. Nor does patriotism require that one refrains from criticizing one&#8217;s land.  In fact, Patriotism is in many ways treated like an abstract concept more than a way of life.</p>
<p> 	Of course, there is no prescriptive way to patriotism but what is deplorable is the committal sense of belonging sadly lacking in today’s youths. Today we talk about ‘brain drain’, that is the ready acceptance that the grass is greener elsewhere in terms of opportunities and avenues and the alienation of our efficient and professional resources accordingly. What youngsters fail to realize is that the socio-politico-economic situation should in no way influence one’s attitude towards patriotism. More and more youngsters nowadays have a bleak view of the prospects Mauritius holds. They think in terms of what Mauritius has to offer. My question to them is what do they have to offer to the country?</p>
<p>As representatives of the next generation, youngsters have the responsibility to define themselves in terms of their nation. Our history is undeniably complicated because of our double colonisation and our identity problematic because of our diverse origins. Instead of swearing allegiance to alien countries we are only attached to because we share similar cultures, we must work on defining a pristine Mauritian nation. Our pressing responsibility is to create a better Mauritius and the onus is on youngsters.</p>
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		<title>By: Y from Perth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y from Perth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mo pane gain li kuma lecturer&quot; v dir zamai li pane lecture dan mo classe..Mo pakoner kuma li eter kuma lecturer...So character paret top anyway!lannee mo ti fini mo bsc, avinash ti fek rant lecturer!Mo ti zis zoine li pendant 1 lunch nou ti fer et ca zour la li ti p met la faya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mo pane gain li kuma lecturer&#8221; v dir zamai li pane lecture dan mo classe..Mo pakoner kuma li eter kuma lecturer&#8230;So character paret top anyway!lannee mo ti fini mo bsc, avinash ti fek rant lecturer!Mo ti zis zoine li pendant 1 lunch nou ti fer et ca zour la li ti p met la faya.</p>
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		<title>By: Chouaïbe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chouaïbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol 
Y from Perth:
jamais tone pane gagne li comme lecturer :D
ki faire?
avinash, just want to know</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol<br />
Y from Perth:<br />
jamais tone pane gagne li comme lecturer <img src='http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
ki faire?<br />
avinash, just want to know</p>
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