Comments on: Linus: Trial-and-error with feedback rocks! http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/ My opinion on Teaching, Programming, Technology and Web 2.0 in Mauritius Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:32:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: avinash http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/#comment-85713 avinash Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:38:06 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/#comment-85713 Hi Selven, For 30 seconds, I thought you were going to say that Linux is the best OS ever ;-) Anyway, I am also a big fan of BSD especially because Mac OS X has a BSD affinity. Hi Selven,

For 30 seconds, I thought you were going to say that Linux is the best OS ever ;-)

Anyway, I am also a big fan of BSD especially because Mac OS X has a BSD affinity.

]]> By: $3|v3n http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/#comment-85648 $3|v3n Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:53:13 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/#comment-85648 bein wai, trial and error boukou pli interessant pou fer ki all assizE all desinn bann ti dessin pou met dans documentation :p atleast in the end you get something that works, and you get just... build on it or perfect it, there's something to start with. While planning everything soooo (bureaucratically (that's my way of saying it) it soo much boring and you won't even the get the "omg i am leet" feeling when your stuff works, because it just is sooo restraining.. enfin sa zis mo lopinion sa. do it the dirty way :p do it the brute's way :p en+ avec tou sa dimoune ki pou work on it ... it will definitely point to a perfect solution... now this doesn't mean i am saying linux is the best system :p we all know BSD is the best :p bein wai, trial and error boukou pli interessant pou fer ki all assizE all desinn bann ti dessin pou met dans documentation :p atleast in the end you get something that works, and you get just… build on it or perfect it, there’s something to start with.

While planning everything soooo (bureaucratically (that’s my way of saying it) it soo much boring and you won’t even the get the “omg i am leet” feeling when your stuff works, because it just is sooo restraining.. enfin sa zis mo lopinion sa.

do it the dirty way :p do it the brute’s way :p

en+ avec tou sa dimoune ki pou work on it … it will definitely point to a perfect solution…

now this doesn’t mean i am saying linux is the best system :p we all know BSD is the best :p

]]> By: avinash http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/#comment-84711 avinash Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:50:29 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/#comment-84711 Yes :-) Like you and me! Yes :-)

Like you and me!

]]> By: Eddy Young http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/#comment-84708 Eddy Young Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:40:39 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/#comment-84708 So, Linux is a fluke then? ;-) --- Eddy So, Linux is a fluke then? ;-)

— Eddy

]]> By: avinash http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/#comment-84697 avinash Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:03:38 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/#comment-84697 Hi Eddy, He adds: <blockquote>I'm deadly serious: we humans have _never_ been able to replicate something more complicated than what we ourselves are, yet natural selection did it without even thinking. </blockquote> He is right of course. Nothing beats trial-and-error with feedback except that this process takes a lot of time. So sometimes, when time is short, we have to use something less "perfect", thoughtful design :-) As far as I understand, design is about choice. And ultimately about the amount of knowledge the designer has. And no one can say that he/she knows everything hence every design is incomplete in some way... Hi Eddy,

He adds:

I’m deadly serious: we humans have _never_ been able to replicate something more complicated than what we ourselves are, yet natural selection did it without even thinking.

He is right of course. Nothing beats trial-and-error with feedback except that this process takes a lot of time. So sometimes, when time is short, we have to use something less “perfect”, thoughtful design :-)

As far as I understand, design is about choice. And ultimately about the amount of knowledge the designer has. And no one can say that he/she knows everything hence every design is incomplete in some way…

]]> By: Eddy Young http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/#comment-84635 Eddy Young Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:02:11 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/12/19/linus-trial-and-error-with-feedback-rocks/#comment-84635 Granted, Linux is enjoying massive success--- But, Linus is pulling this out of his arse again. Man was landed on the moon not by trial-and-error, but by thoughtful design and engineering, something that would not be possible or practical if done the way that Linus is suggesting. --- Eddy Granted, Linux is enjoying massive success— But, Linus is pulling this out of his arse again.

Man was landed on the moon not by trial-and-error, but by thoughtful design and engineering, something that would not be possible or practical if done the way that Linus is suggesting.

— Eddy

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