Comments on: My first MSc module: Software Architecture http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/ A blog on Technology Convergence Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:57:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Dilraj http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-42750 Dilraj Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:12:57 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-42750 @ BlueBerry To resume, we've been crafted for parrot learning (learning by heart), individualistic mode of living (I live for myself and think of my own good always, despite this may harm others), and rat-race competition at all levels (CPE exams, HSC scholarships, being first always in class). So, then it's guaranteed that we'll always say "I don't know" and "show me how to do it", keeping in mind "I'm not going to tell you what I know" since "I don't want you to know more than I do" and that "I should always perform better than you at exams". <i>Well, I agree that some form of competition is nice and desirable at times, but this should not harm the principles of group learning, living as a member of society. Group learning should not mean "show me how you find the answer?" but rather concentrate on <b>sharing of ideas towards solving the problem</b>.</i> @ BlueBerry

To resume, we’ve been crafted for parrot learning (learning by heart), individualistic mode of living (I live for myself and think of my own good always, despite this may harm others), and rat-race competition at all levels (CPE exams, HSC scholarships, being first always in class).

So, then it’s guaranteed that we’ll always say “I don’t know” and “show me how to do it”, keeping in mind “I’m not going to tell you what I know” since “I don’t want you to know more than I do” and that “I should always perform better than you at exams”.

Well, I agree that some form of competition is nice and desirable at times, but this should not harm the principles of group learning, living as a member of society. Group learning should not mean “show me how you find the answer?” but rather concentrate on sharing of ideas towards solving the problem.

]]> By: BlueBerry http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-42441 BlueBerry Sun, 26 Aug 2007 05:20:48 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-42441 "Or is it that bizarre attitude of not participating in classes since a young age so that we don’t share our knowledge?" Spot on Dilraj. Perhaps you remember our undergraduate CSE Group A classes. Any obvious resemblances? That's what one of our cherished lecturers of ours once discussed one day: it's only third world nations(no offence we're criticising our country also) who think like that! If it were the same as in the US, would we be studying programming right now? “Or is it that bizarre attitude of not participating in classes since a young age so that we don’t share our knowledge?”

Spot on Dilraj. Perhaps you remember our undergraduate CSE Group A classes. Any obvious resemblances? That’s what one of our cherished lecturers of ours once discussed one day: it’s only third world nations(no offence we’re criticising our country also) who think like that!

If it were the same as in the US, would we be studying programming right now?

]]> By: Dilraj http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-42182 Dilraj Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:23:47 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-42182 Huh, BTW, mo ti mo casserol pou vine met ene ti l'ambiance, mais mone tender ki minif ti cancelled! Huh, BTW, mo ti mo casserol pou vine met ene ti l’ambiance, mais mone tender ki minif ti cancelled!

]]> By: Dilraj http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-42181 Dilraj Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:22:12 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-42181 Hello. I've been lucky enough to follow the first classes. It was cool and has been a nice experience. As usual, I love having a nice time in class and do my best to participate. I find it bizarre that students don't participate and share ideas. Even if you've got a bad point, I think it's nice. Like this, we'll correct you. But can't blame anyone: is it because we all go to work that we feel sleepy or tired? Or is it that bizarre attitude of not participating in classes since a young age so that we don't share our knowledge? Anyway, I hope to get much an give much in exchange! Hello.

I’ve been lucky enough to follow the first classes. It was cool and has been a nice experience.

As usual, I love having a nice time in class and do my best to participate. I find it bizarre that students don’t participate and share ideas. Even if you’ve got a bad point, I think it’s nice. Like this, we’ll correct you.

But can’t blame anyone: is it because we all go to work that we feel sleepy or tired? Or is it that bizarre attitude of not participating in classes since a young age so that we don’t share our knowledge?

Anyway, I hope to get much an give much in exchange!

]]> By: lol http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-42083 lol Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:00:19 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-42083 lol? sc meme mo pencor gagner lol? sc meme mo pencor gagner

]]> By: selven http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-41565 selven Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:58:22 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-41565 hmm, am beginning to be happy that i got sick for the dbms paper and the pl&algo paper, since i got an incomplete in that paper, i shall have to follow that class next year :) *enfin mo retirr seki monn dir about the getting sick part, i never get happy with that. hmm, am beginning to be happy that i got sick for the dbms paper and the pl&algo paper, since i got an incomplete in that paper, i shall have to follow that class next year :)

*enfin mo retirr seki monn dir about the getting sick part, i never get happy with that.

]]> By: avinash http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-41479 avinash Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:10:09 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-41479 To Olivier: I intend to introduce the students to the beauty of lazy functional language hence my choice of Haskell over LISP or Scheme. But, I also want to show then the power of (real) macros, therefore I may have to show them LISP or Scheme after all... And Scheme will allow me to use DrScheme... I have to think about that. I own Programming Language Pragmatics and it's great. I'll have to read it more thoroughly to see where it might fit. Another great book seems to be Peter Van Roy's book even though it favors Mozart. To Yan: Mozart seems to be great. I've not used it too much. I am ordering the book I've written about above... To Olivier:

I intend to introduce the students to the beauty of lazy functional language hence my choice of Haskell over LISP or Scheme. But, I also want to show then the power of (real) macros, therefore I may have to show them LISP or Scheme after all… And Scheme will allow me to use DrScheme… I have to think about that.

I own Programming Language Pragmatics and it’s great. I’ll have to read it more thoroughly to see where it might fit. Another great book seems to be Peter Van Roy’s book even though it favors Mozart.

To Yan:

Mozart seems to be great. I’ve not used it too much. I am ordering the book I’ve written about above…

]]> By: Yan http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-41470 Yan Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:32:31 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-41470 Mozart sounds great! :) Mozart sounds great! :)

]]> By: Olivier http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-41466 Olivier Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:57:34 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-41466 How about Lisp for a functional language? Should you require cleaner syntax, you could go for Scheme. Haskell does sound cool, but might it not be a tad complicated for second year students? I suggest the textbook Programming Language Pragmatics, Michael L. Scott. I recently received it and I can only say good things. Software architecture was definitely in my top 10 favourite courses in university. Coupled with an "agile" development process, perhaps ICONIX which encourages modelling, going through a few iterations may show the benefits of a good architecture. How about Lisp for a functional language? Should you require cleaner syntax, you could go for Scheme. Haskell does sound cool, but might it not be a tad complicated for second year students?

I suggest the textbook Programming Language Pragmatics, Michael L. Scott. I recently received it and I can only say good things.

Software architecture was definitely in my top 10 favourite courses in university. Coupled with an “agile” development process, perhaps ICONIX which encourages modelling, going through a few iterations may show the benefits of a good architecture.

]]> By: Sundeep http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-41465 Sundeep Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:56:00 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/08/20/my-first-msc-module-software-architecture/#comment-41465 well well.. as usual..kan noune fini kitter ki ena changement..the PL lectures sound very much more interesting that the previous one.. i sincerely wish to b able to assist that.. anyways.. a bit too late now.. anyways best of luck avinash.. well well..
as usual..kan noune fini kitter ki ena changement..the PL lectures sound very much more interesting that the previous one..
i sincerely wish to b able to assist that..
anyways..
a bit too late now..

anyways
best of luck avinash..

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