Comments on: HTML5 is here http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/04/18/html5-is-here/ A blog on Technology Convergence Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:57:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: avinash http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/04/18/html5-is-here/#comment-55700 avinash Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:58:52 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/04/18/html5-is-here/#comment-55700 I guess HTML 4, HTML 5, XHTML 1 and XHTML 2 will all have to cohabit for some years at least... JavaScript is really powerful. Douglas Crockford really knows how to advocate the language! I find the Prototype-based feature very intriguing. Thanks for the info about Steve Yegge. I wasn't aware that he (finally) revealed the secret about the NBL :-) Thanks to read and comment on my blog. I guess HTML 4, HTML 5, XHTML 1 and XHTML 2 will all have to cohabit for some years at least…

JavaScript is really powerful. Douglas Crockford really knows how to advocate the language! I find the Prototype-based feature very intriguing.

Thanks for the info about Steve Yegge. I wasn’t aware that he (finally) revealed the secret about the NBL :-)

Thanks to read and comment on my blog.

]]> By: Jordi http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/04/18/html5-is-here/#comment-55597 Jordi Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:22:05 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/04/18/html5-is-here/#comment-55597 I don't really know a lot about HTML 5, but I just hope that it won't have to 'compete' with XHTML 2. If some browsers (e.g. Firefox, Opera) decide to support HTML 5 and some others (e.g. IE) will only support XHTML 2, web developers have a big problem and will effectively be limited to using the intersection of both languages. Also, I don't really agree with the whole 'XHTML is dead'-sentiment that I seem to find all over the web when searching for 'HTML5'. Sure, XHTML was not supported greatly and it has some drawbacks, but with proper browser support and error handling, I would much prefer to use it over HTML. I don't have a lot of experience, but the project I'm working on right now uses XML techniques quite liberally and it's really powerful, so it would seem to me that XHTML should indeed have a future. Also, about JavaScript: I used to really hate it because of lack of tool support, obscure errors (it just won't work) and browser incompatibilities, but after watching some of Douglas Crockford's video lectures I really started to like a lot of aspects of the language. I'm probably the only one who's reading back your old programming blog entries (BTW I really like your blog), so I'm afraid nobody will read this, but I would really recommend these video lectures as an introduction to the greatness of JavaScript: http://101out.com/js.php By the way, I think there is also a JavaScript implementation for the server side (Rhino I think). Also, while reading back in your blog, I came across this post where Steve Yegge is talking about the Next Big Language, and he means JavaScript (he confirms this at the end of his keynote speech at OSCON 2007). I don’t really know a lot about HTML 5, but I just hope that it won’t have to ‘compete’ with XHTML 2. If some browsers (e.g. Firefox, Opera) decide to support HTML 5 and some others (e.g. IE) will only support XHTML 2, web developers have a big problem and will effectively be limited to using the intersection of both languages.
Also, I don’t really agree with the whole ‘XHTML is dead’-sentiment that I seem to find all over the web when searching for ‘HTML5′. Sure, XHTML was not supported greatly and it has some drawbacks, but with proper browser support and error handling, I would much prefer to use it over HTML. I don’t have a lot of experience, but the project I’m working on right now uses XML techniques quite liberally and it’s really powerful, so it would seem to me that XHTML should indeed have a future.

Also, about JavaScript:
I used to really hate it because of lack of tool support, obscure errors (it just won’t work) and browser incompatibilities, but after watching some of Douglas Crockford’s video lectures I really started to like a lot of aspects of the language.
I’m probably the only one who’s reading back your old programming blog entries (BTW I really like your blog), so I’m afraid nobody will read this, but I would really recommend these video lectures as an introduction to the greatness of JavaScript:
http://101out.com/js.php

By the way, I think there is also a JavaScript implementation for the server side (Rhino I think). Also, while reading back in your blog, I came across this post where Steve Yegge is talking about the Next Big Language, and he means JavaScript (he confirms this at the end of his keynote speech at OSCON 2007).

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