Comments on: I do not want market share. I want freedom! http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/ A blog on Technology Convergence Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:57:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Stephen Naicken http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-4132 Stephen Naicken Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:26:46 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-4132 Microsoft and Xen is another interesting relationship. I had a conversation with research at Microsoft Research, Cambridge a few months ago. The reason for the relationship, to screw VMware, not to contribute to open source and all it stands for. It will be fun to see how things pan out there. If RHEL and the others are good enough, I see no reason why they can't take on any Microsoft-back Linux. The market through its freedom of choice will ultimately decide, but lets hope it is an informed choice. Microsoft and Xen is another interesting relationship. I had a conversation with research at Microsoft Research, Cambridge a few months ago. The reason for the relationship, to screw VMware, not to contribute to open source and all it stands for. It will be fun to see how things pan out there.

If RHEL and the others are good enough, I see no reason why they can’t take on any Microsoft-back Linux. The market through its freedom of choice will ultimately decide, but lets hope it is an informed choice.

]]> By: selven http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-4045 selven Sat, 11 Nov 2006 05:04:09 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-4045 hmm.. it might even be made into a sort of GEM, any student who spend that much hours in project gameuom gets a certain amount of marks.. interesting.. that's the type of thing i thought univ will be before i came in, ohh well i know students will be difficult to recruit, but it can be a project that can take years.. but as long as there is one :p hmm.. it might even be made into a sort of GEM, any student who spend that much hours in project gameuom gets a certain amount of marks.. interesting.. that’s the type of thing i thought univ will be before i came in, ohh well i know students will be difficult to recruit, but it can be a project that can take years.. but as long as there is one :p

]]> By: selven http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-4044 selven Sat, 11 Nov 2006 04:51:57 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-4044 Hmm.. damned... i always warned when novell got in the scene.. no one botherred to listen to me :p Anywayz, you are right.. in such time.. better side with the Devil (am referring to BSD) hihih long live FreeBSD yeah supporting Redhat stuffs is also a good thing ps. sundeep, quake3a is a fantastic game, runs on linux.. plus.. you get more FPS on linux with Quake than on Windows (tried and tested on my machine..now you know that i love to tweak both my windows and linux box..) The thing abotu games is just the fault of game developpers.. they are too much dependant on DirectX.. but heh.. they wanna make some money also.. can't blame em.. hmm thinking of it.. during the 3 years of study in univ.. wouldn't it be possible for several students to join and to work on a game (now i know thisi s hard.. but with lots and lots of students.. we can make something ..lol bizin demann expert dans game programming la sa.. missiE pascal?) +PC/S3| Hmm.. damned… i always warned when novell got in the scene.. no one botherred to listen to me :p

Anywayz, you are right.. in such time.. better side with the Devil (am referring to BSD) hihih
long live FreeBSD
yeah supporting Redhat stuffs is also a good thing

ps. sundeep, quake3a is a fantastic game, runs on linux.. plus.. you get more FPS on linux with Quake than on Windows (tried and tested on my machine..now you know that i love to tweak both my windows and linux box..)

The thing abotu games is just the fault of game developpers.. they are too much dependant on DirectX.. but heh.. they wanna make some money also.. can’t blame em.. hmm thinking of it.. during the 3 years of study in univ.. wouldn’t it be possible for several students to join and to work on a game (now i know thisi s hard.. but with lots and lots of students.. we can make something ..lol bizin demann expert dans game programming la sa.. missiE pascal?)

+PC/S3|

]]> By: Eddy Young http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-4037 Eddy Young Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:45:11 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-4037 Personally, I welcome the partnership between Microsoft and Novell. 1. .NET on Linux will come faster. God knows how often I've craved for a more robust Mono. 2. Sun deserves a kick in the a** as regards Java. The threat of a truly cross-platform .NET should shake things up. And that is good for us, developers. 3. More options for Enterprise when Windows will not do. Personally, I welcome the partnership between Microsoft and Novell.

1. .NET on Linux will come faster. God knows how often I’ve craved for a more robust Mono.

2. Sun deserves a kick in the a** as regards Java. The threat of a truly cross-platform .NET should shake things up. And that is good for us, developers.

3. More options for Enterprise when Windows will not do.

]]> By: avinash http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-3924 avinash Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:29:29 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-3924 Hi Dooshian, Go to the <a href="http://www.linux.mu/" rel="nofollow">Linux User Group of Mauritius</a> and ask. They'll kindly give you a set of CDs. Hi Dooshian,

Go to the Linux User Group of Mauritius and ask. They’ll kindly give you a set of CDs.

]]> By: dooshian http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-3900 dooshian Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:36:14 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-3900 i'm from mauritius and i would like to have a live cd(or full installation) of linux to try out!!!! i’m from mauritius and i would like to have a live cd(or full installation) of linux to try out!!!!

]]> By: avinash http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-3873 avinash Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:53:14 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-3873 Microsoft is not going to win. <blockquote>I don't think even now Microsoft realizes the danger they're in. They're worrying about Google. And they should. But they should worry even more about thousands of twenty year old hackers writing Ajax applications. Desktop software is going to become increasingly irrelevant. [<a href="http://www.acm.org/crossroads/xrds12-3/paulgraham.html" rel="nofollow">Paul Graham</a>]</blockquote> But until then, they sure will make our life tough :-) Microsoft is not going to win.

I don’t think even now Microsoft realizes the danger they’re in. They’re worrying about Google. And they should. But they should worry even more about thousands of twenty year old hackers writing Ajax applications. Desktop software is going to become increasingly irrelevant. [Paul Graham]

But until then, they sure will make our life tough :-)

]]> By: Val http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-3868 Val Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:52:15 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-3868 hmm it does seem that microsoft is gonna win the day agen (so much for all the talks of its being already dead n buried lol). I ain't much of a linux user but i do fink that open-source is the way to go. No company can rival wiv all the creativity n talent available on a global perspective. It might b a good commercial venture, but it definitely aint good for computer science in general. Enfin c la vie, fo faire avek! P.S: [to sundeep] aint got the new NFS yet mate! hmm it does seem that microsoft is gonna win the day agen (so much for all the talks of its being already dead n buried lol). I ain’t much of a linux user but i do fink that open-source is the way to go. No company can rival wiv all the creativity n talent available on a global perspective. It might b a good commercial venture, but it definitely aint good for computer science in general. Enfin c la vie, fo faire avek!

P.S: [to sundeep] aint got the new NFS yet mate!

]]> By: David http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-3865 David Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:20:55 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-3865 Seriously, I don't particularly see how Microsoft can be of any help to the open source community. I have to agree with Avinash. In fact I'm pretty skeptic...History has shown that MS either buys or crush competitors with their billions of dollars...Novell/SUSE will just be another casualty... This Novell/MS collaboration is just a way to get on the "good side" of Linux users. But then I don't the Linux developer community is naive. As far as I recall, the Samba developers have complained about Microsoft's lack of cooperation on SMB. To sum up: “Innovation has nothing to do with how many R&D dollars you have. When Apple came up with the Mac, IBM was spending at least 100 times more on R&D. It’s not about money. It’s about the people you have, how you’re led, and how much you get it.”
— Steve Jobs, Fortune, Nov. 9, 1998 Seriously, I don’t particularly see how Microsoft can be of any help to the open source community.

I have to agree with Avinash. In fact I’m pretty skeptic…History has shown that MS either buys or crush competitors with their billions of dollars…Novell/SUSE will just be another casualty…

This Novell/MS collaboration is just a way to get on the “good side” of Linux users. But then I don’t the Linux developer community is naive. As far as I recall, the Samba developers have complained about Microsoft’s lack of cooperation on SMB.

To sum up:

“Innovation has nothing to do with how many R&D dollars you have. When Apple came up with the Mac, IBM was spending at least 100 times more on R&D. It’s not about money. It’s about the people you have, how you’re led, and how much you get it.”
— Steve Jobs, Fortune, Nov. 9, 1998

]]> By: avinash http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-3855 avinash Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:18:06 +0000 http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2006/11/04/i-do-not-want-market-share-i-want-freedom/#comment-3855 It's true that you don't have lots of games in Linux (I am not a gamer myself), but this is not a reason for me to accept the existence of a Microsoft-approved Linux "might do some good" :-) Microsoft does not care about Torvalds, about Stallman or about us Linux geeks. Microsoft is a commercial company with one major objective : to please its millions of shareholders by making the maximum amount of profit. They have approached Novell because Novell was "buyable" (Red Hat was not). Mark my words, in 5 years, Novell will be completely forgotten. This has happened many times in the past. It’s true that you don’t have lots of games in Linux (I am not a gamer myself), but this is not a reason for me to accept the existence of a Microsoft-approved Linux “might do some good” :-)

Microsoft does not care about Torvalds, about Stallman or about us Linux geeks. Microsoft is a commercial company with one major objective : to please its millions of shareholders by making the maximum amount of profit.

They have approached Novell because Novell was “buyable” (Red Hat was not). Mark my words, in 5 years, Novell will be completely forgotten. This has happened many times in the past.

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