well i remember last year while working with Mr Meetoo, we would take the last 15 mins to talk about stuffs other than the lecture matter, what things about computers that we might not have understood etc

was a nice initiative

most students are doign CSE just to get a high pay??

Well A great man told us that

“our pay is proportional to how profitable we prove to be for the company”

Coming back to interaction between lecturers and students, a FORUM will be great!!

Since earlier in here we have been talking about lecturers supervising students on a projet.. hehe the implementation of the forum will be a good start (implemented by students for students)

The student was unable to explain. Why?

The student did not even know the answer. However that student is good in exams.

these are the kinds of students who most of the times gets the first class :p
The whole educational system gives those ddues the advantage.. yet these will be the ones who will not understand anything in a real life situation.
Come on be realistic.. there are lots of sys admins/programmers/IT managers out there who have got ‘first class’ at univ, but who are not great sys admins/programmers/IT Managers because they just know everything by the book.

They are basically just exploiting the bug in our educational system.. but i guess this is FAR beyond our control.

I appreciate that you agree with me. I myself know that when anyone joins a company, what we have learned at university is only a drop of water in an ocean. It is there that you have to work and prove your performance (idea supported by Sundeep). I think as it is confirmed by Vicks that APRANE PAR COEUR pas pou capave servi la bas.

Seki to p dire la Asvin Balloo (Pa menti sa) ena p aprane sa par coeur. Nek demane zote explique toi sa apres lexamen, zote fini blier (head disk crashed : algorithm can not boot from head disk)

As Mr. Avinash said learning by heart is not a good thing.Not from the part of a Computer scientist.Ene prof dan HSC ti p fatiguer dire nou sa. Aprane par coeur pas pou servi zote nanier. Hoping that all of us together with Mr Avinash, we could “faire bane la comprend qui sa pa pou servi nanier�.

As Vicks said why not segment the percentage of project and exams 50:50.

Or

No exams at all.

Can be the case of a 3 year course submitting a project (a Computer Scientist one) at the end of each year (1 & 2).

A more serious and complete project for the final year.

Without the idea of COPY AND PASTE AS MANY STUDENT DO!!!!!!!!!

I think sa ti pou pli bon.

What do you think.

Real life is very different from University life. Schooling is supposed to teach adaptability and not some facts that are true at time t but which WILL BE IRRELEVANT at time t+1.

IMHO, Intelligence = adaptability.

i do really much agree with the fact that some students, like their lecture notes more than computer science..wht happens outside doesnt seem to interest them,want a proof? i know some ppl, doing computer science at university level..who dont know how to use google(yups, there are some specimens like that..not from uom though..or so i hope..). they are either lazy, or are not interested at all in it..they enrolled coz they heard that there would be a cybercity and they would get a job there..bt, will they get the job? well even if they do, will they love it? i know many students who joined they course caused they thought they’d secure a job in the cybercity easy, bt what they didnt think perhaps, it that they would perhaps b spending the rest of their lives sitting in front of a pc writing codes..some of them already find programming a pain, they do their assignments only coz they have to do it..and some will even learn the code by heart mind u..

well many students also think that wht they learn at uni is enough..well, real life is far from being an assignment, i did 2 month training in an offshore website development company, well, let me tell u guys, trust me, in real life, much of the thing u need to know is not taught in class..so u better b prepared..

i think the programming contest might help, since it will force the students to look for things that are not taught in class..and perhaps come up with smtg nice in the end(or not..) but atleast they will try(some might get the opportunity to use google :p btw i hope that some of them have ever clicked on the more link of google..)

well this has been an interesting article it seems,let’s c the outcome at uni..

well about the ranks at uom, first class, second class.. etc

Nowadays companies before recruiting perform some sort of written test,

COMPANIES LIKE:

Accenture
ceridian
infosys

so those who want to learn by heart and pass an exams go ahead..BUT how would you cope when attending those entrance exams?? There won’t be any lecture notes to learn by heart!!!

i don’t really care about my CPA, don’t even know how they calculate it!!!

In a way, I don’t really blame them as they are not (and will not ever become great) computer scientists. They have chosen CSE or IS just because of hype. I sincerely hope they manage to do what they really like afterwards…

It’s true also that a lot depends on year 1 courses. If a lecturer can transmit his/her enthusiasm for Computer Science, for problem solving and for programming to students, then things may be much better.

As you have said one day, why don’t we all students come to university and leave with an equal degree in hand.

No competition, No exams
No 1st class, No Second class first…..

It is as if we are coming to university, fighting as an army in order to know who the best is.

Surely I know some special cases where students are both good at exams and in writing codes. I don’t feel that copy and paste assignment is a good solution since plagiarism is severely punished at university (Is it so?)

The pleasure that I had last year was for the assignment. Mr. Avinash took all his time to analyze our project. The question that was asked at the end was. What do you feel about this program?

Do you feel you are doing programming?

For this academic year, while one lecture was being delivered (Not with Mr Avinash), the lecturer asked one question.

Do you know what virtual memory (VM) is?

Students in my class did not respond to the question?

Finally the lecturer asked someone to explain the meaning of VM.

Surely I think that you guess in advance.

The student was unable to explain. Why?

The student did not even know the answer. However that student is good in exams.

Thus, is learning only through lecture notes good for that student.

In my opinion, as you said in one of the lecture last year. THE LECTURE IS ONLY HERE TO BE A GUIDE FOR US.

THE QUESTION I ASK MYSELF IS.
DO THOSE STUDENT LIKE COMPUTER SCIENCE REALLY OR ONLY LECTURE NOTES.

Hoping that Mr. Avinash will be able to give me a solution to this question.

Surely.
Thanks in advance